Hi Davide, we're stuck in the game and apparently it's a bug. When we use the gum paper with the torn sheets, we get a cryptic letter. Over at Acuqverde we examine plate 12 and get the response from the butler that Mr. Rovelli has left the mansion. Nothing happens afterwards! I watched a youtube-walkthrough and at this point the game gives an additional information that Emilia is ready to move on to Turin. But this event is not triggered in our session, only in the youtube-videos. We've got the urgent telegram, we've been at the archives for GE240. Is this a bug or did we miss something? The crucial event is simply not triggered.
Hi, which is the version of the game you are playing? On which platform?
Did you receive the second telegram? Have you had a look at the symbol on the gate of Raligotto's villa? Try to read again the letter. The symbol on the gate is what makes you realize that there's a connection between Raligotto and Rovelli.
Thx for the fast reply! It's Version 1.1.1 and I know what went wrong. We missed to examine the gate. However if you examine the gate after you've been at the mansion no12 nothing happens, the crucial event is not triggered. If you examine the gate before going to Rovelli's manor, everything is okay and the event is activated.
Hi, I look at the code of the game and, in order to decide to go to Turin, you should:
- Have received the second telegram
- Have visited Rovelli's place
- Have the recomposed letter with you
- Have examined the iron's gate at Raligotto's villa
For the moment, I do not see the bug, yet. The moment where you examine the gate should not count. If you examine the recomposed letter, you should get a slightly longer message, with a part that says that you recognize the symbol. This does not trigger any particular event though.
If you still think there's a bug, can you send me a save file of the game, so that I can watch it in more detail? Write me using the address on my blog, I will give you a second address where you can send attached files.
In theory, the version of the game in a single .cas file should contain the loader and the three parts. If the cassette does not stop automatically when part1 is fully loaded, try stopping it manually. If you try to load from there, part2 should be loaded. If you are using an emulator though, it is probably much more convenient to use the distribution with the three .cas files separated.
Bought the physical C64 version, and I just started playing it with my wife (It's her first text adventure). She's enjoying it a lot, which says a great deal as she's not a video game person unless it's Columns or PuyoPuyo. Currently at the part where we got the reply telegram, and have some stamped paper. Really good map, very logical.
Does the save system save to the disc, or do I need a separate disc to save on?
Hello, I'm glad you and your wife both appreciate the game!
When I played to similar games, I used a second disk I swap when I want to save. However, there is some space left in the game disk, if you want to use it for the saves, you can do it.
Played and finished this game on my Amiga 1200. I really enjoyed it to the max, the dark story behind the Queen's Sandals (although similar seen on the movies, ex. The Ninth Gate), was very well executed and kept my interest till acquiring the Sandals and escaped from the library's window.
The descriptions are very good, and the possibility to examine thoroughly the scenery and the background to reveal objects or secret entrances/passages in order to progress further in the story is a big bonus. Therefore, you cannot finish this adventure with only the objects listed in the "You Notice:" section under the description.
Another bonus are the various verbs you have to use in order to complete the game, and not just type USE for every action you want to do, which in my opinion is how text adventures must work. Although I was expecting more verbs, or at least synonyms of the verbs currently in use. There were many times that I was scratching my head which verb to use in order to perform an action, regardless if my thinking was right at the end.
The puzzles were nice, not hard but logical, which is what it matters the most in text adventures. Especially I liked the Fibonacci sequence puzzle (although I was expecting it much harder).
Also, I don't understand why PUT is similar to DROP, which I've seen in quite a few adventures. In my opinion this is wrong or misleading of the verb. For example:
SPOILER ALERT
In the sewers, after you acquire the wooden stick, you have to put some grease on it in order to make a small torch to put away the rats. My first thought was to PUT GREASE ON WOODEN STICK or PUT WOODEN STICK IN GREASE, but nothing worked. All the program wanted is to type GET GREASE!
END SPOILER ALERT
Another point which I found it very confusing, the verbs LOOK and EXAMINE are identical in adventures, but when you try to LOOK an object, you just get the room description! There were some other similar occasions of course, but I think the point was taken.
I found some bugs here and there. One obvious bug is at the first part, when you take the Headed Letter with Stamp from the officer, you cannot examine it nor drop it etc, till you find the blue ink and write the phoney order.
Also, on the third part, in the Nightmare Room, if you try to go WEST, you will face some rats blocking your path. The description says: "You will not set foot in there unless you...", which "unless you" is typed twice.
To sum up, as I said in the beginning, I enjoyed the adventure to the max. I have already started Two Days To The Race as I'm expecting the same enjoyment as the aforementioned adventure.
Already following you Davide, for more similar text adventures in the future, please keep up the good work you do there.
Concerning the verbs, I was recently myself too thinking that having PUT and DROP as synonyms does not always fit very well to the game. I will take into account that for my future adventures. Concerning EXAMINE and LOOK, I'll think about it.
I apologize for the occasional "hunt the verb" situations. I think you have already played version 1.1 of the game. I improved it thanks to the feedback I got by many players (and the Amiga Future review as well). There is always margin for improvement and it is very useful to have more feedback.
Thank you and I hope you will enjoy Two Days to the Race as well!
I haven't received anything. Sometimes, emails are deleted directly by my provider, especially if they contain attachments, sorry for the inconvenience. Try to write again a short email, I'll send you another address where anti-spam is less aggressive.
Still nothing. Did you remove the AVOIDSPAM part in the message? If yes, replace what follows the "at" with a well known email provider from the big G :-)
Hi, I haven't tested it, but given that TheC64 emulates a real C64, there are no reasons why it should not work. By the way, testing on the VICE emulators is part of the normal development flow of my games.
If you are in doubt, you can download for free the digital version of the game and try it.
Thanks for the quick reply! I'll try it out. I just realised that even if I can't get it to work on "theC64", I can probably use the "Commander X16" emulator and still play it. I'll go ahead and download. This game looks exciting.
Indeed, that's one possibility. If you want, you can download the amazing VICE emulator for the C64 (but also the VIC20 and C128) and use it to play to TQF. I personally like the C128 version because of the 80 columns.
Awesome. I'll have to download that as well. It's so amazing that this game is supported on so many platforms, so that there is always at least some option out there.
Hello, I use OpenMSX, too (version 0.15.0). If you prefer to use the rom files (in the "rom" directory of the archive), you just have to select "Load ROM... (slot A)" in the emulator, then select one of the three files (for example "MSXqueens1.rom") and then "Autodetect (guess)" for the choice of the mapper type. The game should start automatically.
The address 0x4000 is the starting address of the ROM to be mapped in the emulator. If you select "Plain rom starting at 0x4000" in the mapper type, the game works, too. However, the emulator seems to guess correctly the address with the simple "Autodetect".
Just wanted to come back and say i really enjoyed this. I found the commands needed to be tough to guess. I was correct in what to do but I wasn't typing it the right way. More generic commands such as "use X" didn't seem to work as much as i thought they would. Great story.
If it can help future players who will read the comments, in general, I would advice to avoid to adopt "use" altogether in the game, to prefer more specific actions. One can complete the game using verbs such as take, tie, jump, talk, wear, read, examine, throw, put, give, drive, try, break, pour, turn, touch, plus the common directions, etc...
Sometimes, "use" is recognized as a synonym of a more specific action, sometimes it doesn't.
Cheers,
D.
P.S. if you finished the game, write me privately (there is an email on my blog) with the final password, I'll add your name to the hall of fame on my blog.
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Hi Davide, we're stuck in the game and apparently it's a bug. When we use the gum paper with the torn sheets, we get a cryptic letter. Over at Acuqverde we examine plate 12 and get the response from the butler that Mr. Rovelli has left the mansion. Nothing happens afterwards! I watched a youtube-walkthrough and at this point the game gives an additional information that Emilia is ready to move on to Turin. But this event is not triggered in our session, only in the youtube-videos. We've got the urgent telegram, we've been at the archives for GE240. Is this a bug or did we miss something? The crucial event is simply not triggered.
Hi, which is the version of the game you are playing? On which platform?
Did you receive the second telegram? Have you had a look at the symbol on the gate of Raligotto's villa? Try to read again the letter. The symbol on the gate is what makes you realize that there's a connection between Raligotto and Rovelli.
Did you try to speak again to the hotel clerk?
D.
Thx for the fast reply! It's Version 1.1.1 and I know what went wrong. We missed to examine the gate. However if you examine the gate after you've been at the mansion no12 nothing happens, the crucial event is not triggered. If you examine the gate before going to Rovelli's manor, everything is okay and the event is activated.
Hi,
I look at the code of the game and, in order to decide to go to Turin, you should:
- Have received the second telegram
- Have visited Rovelli's place
- Have the recomposed letter with you
- Have examined the iron's gate at Raligotto's villa
For the moment, I do not see the bug, yet. The moment where you examine the gate should not count. If you examine the recomposed letter, you should get a slightly longer message, with a part that says that you recognize the symbol. This does not trigger any particular event though.
If you still think there's a bug, can you send me a save file of the game, so that I can watch it in more detail? Write me using the address on my blog, I will give you a second address where you can send attached files.
Cheers,
D.
How are parts 2 and 3 loaded in the MSX version of a single CAS? Is it normal that when you finish loading part 1 the cassette does not stop?
Hello!
In theory, the version of the game in a single .cas file should contain the loader and the three parts. If the cassette does not stop automatically when part1 is fully loaded, try stopping it manually. If you try to load from there, part2 should be loaded. If you are using an emulator though, it is probably much more convenient to use the distribution with the three .cas files separated.
Let me know,
D.
Bought the physical C64 version, and I just started playing it with my wife (It's her first text adventure). She's enjoying it a lot, which says a great deal as she's not a video game person unless it's Columns or PuyoPuyo. Currently at the part where we got the reply telegram, and have some stamped paper. Really good map, very logical.
Does the save system save to the disc, or do I need a separate disc to save on?
Hello,
I'm glad you and your wife both appreciate the game!
When I played to similar games, I used a second disk I swap when I want to save. However, there is some space left in the game disk, if you want to use it for the saves, you can do it.
Cheers,
D.
Wow, that nostalgia!
:-)
Played and finished this game on my Amiga 1200. I really enjoyed it to the max, the dark story behind the Queen's Sandals (although similar seen on the movies, ex. The Ninth Gate), was very well executed and kept my interest till acquiring the Sandals and escaped from the library's window.
The descriptions are very good, and the possibility to examine thoroughly the scenery and the background to reveal objects or secret entrances/passages in order to progress further in the story is a big bonus. Therefore, you cannot finish this adventure with only the objects listed in the "You Notice:" section under the description.
Another bonus are the various verbs you have to use in order to complete the game, and not just type USE for every action you want to do, which in my opinion is how text adventures must work. Although I was expecting more verbs, or at least synonyms of the verbs currently in use. There were many times that I was scratching my head which verb to use in order to perform an action, regardless if my thinking was right at the end.
The puzzles were nice, not hard but logical, which is what it matters the most in text adventures. Especially I liked the Fibonacci sequence puzzle (although I was expecting it much harder).
Also, I don't understand why PUT is similar to DROP, which I've seen in quite a few adventures. In my opinion this is wrong or misleading of the verb. For example:
SPOILER ALERT
In the sewers, after you acquire the wooden stick, you have to put some grease on it in order to make a small torch to put away the rats. My first thought was to PUT GREASE ON WOODEN STICK or PUT WOODEN STICK IN GREASE, but nothing worked. All the program wanted is to type GET GREASE!
END SPOILER ALERT
Another point which I found it very confusing, the verbs LOOK and EXAMINE are identical in adventures, but when you try to LOOK an object, you just get the room description! There were some other similar occasions of course, but I think the point was taken.
I found some bugs here and there. One obvious bug is at the first part, when you take the Headed Letter with Stamp from the officer, you cannot examine it nor drop it etc, till you find the blue ink and write the phoney order.
Also, on the third part, in the Nightmare Room, if you try to go WEST, you will face some rats blocking your path. The description says: "You will not set foot in there unless you...", which "unless you" is typed twice.
To sum up, as I said in the beginning, I enjoyed the adventure to the max. I have already started Two Days To The Race as I'm expecting the same enjoyment as the aforementioned adventure.
Already following you Davide, for more similar text adventures in the future, please keep up the good work you do there.
Thank you very much for your review, Samurai!
I'm glad you enjoyed the game, I hope you will appreciate Two Days to the Race as well (you will notice it is a shorter game).
I wrote a page about the background of the game you may appreciate: http://davbucci.chez-alice.fr/index.php?argument=varie/queen/background.inc&lang... You find my email on the website, don't hesitate to send me a message with the final password, I will add you to the hall of fame on my blog.
Concerning the verbs, I was recently myself too thinking that having PUT and DROP as synonyms does not always fit very well to the game. I will take into account that for my future adventures. Concerning EXAMINE and LOOK, I'll think about it.
I apologize for the occasional "hunt the verb" situations. I think you have already played version 1.1 of the game. I improved it thanks to the feedback I got by many players (and the Amiga Future review as well). There is always margin for improvement and it is very useful to have more feedback.
Thank you and I hope you will enjoy Two Days to the Race as well!
D.
Thanks for the link, was an interesting historical link. I've already sent my comprehensive e-mail to you (maybe you should check your spam folder).
I haven't received anything. Sometimes, emails are deleted directly by my provider, especially if they contain attachments, sorry for the inconvenience. Try to write again a short email, I'll send you another address where anti-spam is less aggressive.
I have re-sent it again, if you didn't receive anything, please send me another email address.
Still nothing. Did you remove the AVOIDSPAM part in the message? If yes, replace what follows the "at" with a well known email provider from the big G :-)
Will this game work on the new "theC64" maxi?
Hi,
I haven't tested it, but given that TheC64 emulates a real C64, there are no reasons why it should not work. By the way, testing on the VICE emulators is part of the normal development flow of my games.
If you are in doubt, you can download for free the digital version of the game and try it.
Cheers,
D.
Thanks for the quick reply! I'll try it out. I just realised that even if I can't get it to work on "theC64", I can probably use the "Commander X16" emulator and still play it. I'll go ahead and download. This game looks exciting.
Thanks!
Indeed, that's one possibility. If you want, you can download the amazing VICE emulator for the C64 (but also the VIC20 and C128) and use it to play to TQF. I personally like the C128 version because of the 80 columns.
Cheers,
D.
Awesome. I'll have to download that as well. It's so amazing that this game is supported on so many platforms, so that there is always at least some option out there.
Hello,
I use OpenMSX, too (version 0.15.0). If you prefer to use the rom files (in the "rom" directory of the archive), you just have to select "Load ROM... (slot A)" in the emulator, then select one of the three files (for example "MSXqueens1.rom") and then "Autodetect (guess)" for the choice of the mapper type. The game should start automatically.
The address 0x4000 is the starting address of the ROM to be mapped in the emulator. If you select "Plain rom starting at 0x4000" in the mapper type, the game works, too. However, the emulator seems to guess correctly the address with the simple "Autodetect".
Hope it helps,
D.
Thanks Davide. I wasn't able to get to work so i have run it on my c64 and its going well. I like the look of the font in that version.
Just wanted to come back and say i really enjoyed this. I found the commands needed to be tough to guess. I was correct in what to do but I wasn't typing it the right way. More generic commands such as "use X" didn't seem to work as much as i thought they would. Great story.
Thank you for your kind comment!
If it can help future players who will read the comments, in general, I would advice to avoid to adopt "use" altogether in the game, to prefer more specific actions. One can complete the game using verbs such as take, tie, jump, talk, wear, read, examine, throw, put, give, drive, try, break, pour, turn, touch, plus the common directions, etc...
Sometimes, "use" is recognized as a synonym of a more specific action, sometimes it doesn't.
Cheers,
D.
P.S. if you finished the game, write me privately (there is an email on my blog) with the final password, I'll add your name to the hall of fame on my blog.
By the way, I would like to add that someone has put together an online MSX emulator where the game can be played:
https://homebrew.file-hunter.com/index.php?id=queensfootsteps
Cheers,
D.
i'm having an issue getting the rom to run in openmsx. What does it mean in the instructions "to be loaded from address 0x4000"?